EP32 | Otto Scharmer and Antoinette Klatzky - Creating Social Systems with a Soul

Thomas is joined by Senior Lecturer in the MIT Management Sloan School, and the Founding Chair of the Presencing Institute, Otto Scharmer, and facilitator, systems change leader, intrapreneur, and strategist, Antoinette Klatzky. They discuss what Otto calls the “architectures of connection”-- the social systems and structures that can either be extractive and perpetuate violence and trauma, or be open and regenerative and enable healing. Thomas, Antionette, and Otto also explore how they’ve taken differing paths to the same conclusion; that all societies need collective healing spaces where intense emotions and experiences can be witnessed and creative inspiration for the future can emerge. Key Points: 00:00 Introduction 01:54 Healing as staying heart-connected 04:24 The lack of societal architectures for healing spaces 10:02 Cultivating our inner soil for regeneration 15:42 Social systems and the root of structural violence 21:55 Awareness of the social field 26:15 The presence of the circle being and how it works 35:10 The impact of acknowledging pain and trauma 39:37 The enabling conditions for healing   Sign up for updates by visiting our website: